From her fire engine red first workroom appearance, Thorgy Thor was scorching the competition on this season of “RuPaul’s Drag Race”. With her mix of Carol Burnett kookiness and out of the box style, Thorgy was thought to be a leading contender to grab the crown this year. While Ms. Thor may have “sashayed away” already, she is far from through. We sat with Thorgy to chat about her time on “Drag Race”, what it takes to be a successful queen in New York City, and why being nervous will always be an absolute necessity.
Thorgy, you were a fan favorite on this season of “RuPaul’s Drag Race”. How does it feel for the experience to be over finally over?
I have an overwhelming sense of relief. I mean, when you get back from filming, you already know how far you’ve made it, but you can’t say anything. You’re still nervous for that episode to air though, you know? It’s funny, every single person that I have met since I came back has said to me “you’re going to be top three, you’re going to be the winner, et cetera” I knew the whole time that I didn’t win, but I had to keep my mouth shut. So now it’s definitely a relief for it to be out there.
As someone who has seen you perform many times live, I thought you had the inside track to be top three and quite possibly snatch the crown myself!
Do you think you truly did get into your head too much on the show?
They sure edited it that way, didn’t they? You know, as a creative person, I never thought that someone who is in their head and has a lot of ideas was a problem until I got there and they told me that it was. That was a little disappointing to hear. I never thought that in this industry being creative can work against you, but it can I guess.
You mentioned during “Untucked” that your grandmother once told you that you would be the “jack of all trades, master of none”. Do you feel that moments like that made you more human to viewers?
You know, I still can’t believe I said that!
That being said, do you think that during the final challenge you had to be “put into a box” so to speak and not really let your creative juices flow?
You know, I was surprised at how simple they wanted everything to be. I realized afterwards watching it, that things to me that seemed kind of trivial and not thought out that well enough tend to be funny to other people and to an audience. Maybe I do need to edit; I was trying to create material that I as a judge, would find as funny, rather than just saying something really simple and that saying something was good enough. When I saw the videos that the other girls did, I saw it was just basic and simple.
The whole point of my character was a Joan Crawford-esque, most selfish and worst human being alive kind of thing. I just got swept away with the character. I wrote about forty pages of material and was cracking myself up, thinking it was going to be so good. When I watched it, I saw that the character really wasn’t developed yet, so it really wasn’t funny. In this show though, you really have to “race” to create something quickly and my ideas don’t develop that way. Maybe that was my demise, I don’t know.
Do you think that the girls like Acid Betty and Bob the Drag Queen, who come from a super competitive city like New York City have an inside track where being competitive comes in?
You know, New York definitely prepares you to compete against other people. I thought when I got there I was super prepared. I think it was Kim Chi I was talking to, and she mentioned that she works one to two parties a month. When she shows up, she is decorated from head to toe, one person made her wig, another her dress, and she looks polished. Whereas in New York, we have to work five days a week for fifty dollars, and it’s kind of like “it’s four hours, go”! If you can’t do that, you’re not made for New York City. The fact is, I was prepared for that and worked that hard. My work ethic has always been there. You have people in New York City that come see your show who sit in the front, don’t tip you, and are the most judgmental New Yorkers ever. In the city, they can go around the corner to see Bob, then maybe across the street to see Bianca, then go around the corner again to see Thorgy, you know what I mean? In New York, you really have to be judgmental about yourself and work very, very hard.
There is always going to be someone upcoming behind you to want the gig that you have and make their own splash in New York City.
Oh there is always another poopie diaper coming up who wants to get paid, thinks she’s funny, etc. LOL. They’re good, they watch the makeup tutorials, etc. You know, I have some sisters in New York that call themselves “pre-Race” queens. Like, I was doing drag before “RuPaul’s Drag Race” was a thing, before it even existed. I did my own thing. These girls come in, and they may have watched Miss Fame’s makeup tutorial on You Tube. They come in, and I’m like “where have you been, where did you learn this from”? Some of them don’t have stories to tell. I feel that as a performer and when making this a career, you have to have gone though some shit, you have to have stories to tell. I think we’ve lost that a little bit. With queens like BIanca Del Rio, Varla Jean Merman, Lady Bunny, Joey Arias, Miss Understood, Lypsinka, and even RuPaul, they have paved the way for the community now, who can quit their jobs and make it a career. That never made sense to me, I kind of woke up and said “let me wake up and be ridiculous!” I kind of just couldn’t help it.
You have a very distinct angle of your drag career carved out, as you play instruments and are classically trained. Do you want to take that to the next level now that you have this platform?
Absolutely! I am glad that I mentioned it a lot. People are so interested in how I play strings and people are really eating it up. It’s forcing me to put together some really great ideas. I mean, I have about one hundred and fifty complete shows in my head that I could potentially do. Although it is going to wait a little bit, as I am starting to get booked a lot for club appearances, stuff like that, and the whole “Drag Race” tour.
Right after you get off the show, clubs around the country really want to book you quickly until Season 9 comes out. I am doing that now and saving some money, so in maybe eight months to a year, I can put together a really fantastic strings show. I would love to conduct maybe like, an eighty piece orchestra. That’s really what I want to do. I am always happy to sit in a rehearsal.
So every time you get out on stage are you nervous?
Oh absolutely. If you’re not nervous, you didn’t do it the right way. I’m nervous every time. I think that fuels you. You’re putting out your brain in a visual way and you’re being judged. If you’re not nervous, you didn’t do enough work to prepare for this.
Many are saying that your season is one of the strongest seasons ever cast. Who do you think could snatch the crown?
Right now, I think it’s between Bob the Drag Queen and Kim Chi, but I’m also rooting headstrong for Naomi Smalls also. I think Naomi really won my heart when I was there, she’s one of my favorite people to hang out with.
I think you are almost the heart of “RuPaul’s Drag Race” this year. During your final “Untucked” interview you implored the audience “Love all of us because we love each other.”
I think it was day one when I met all the girls, I remember saying to them that I wasn’t there to be like “let’s send that bitch home”! I never thought about it that way, like “yeah let’s have a good time!” I wanted to fall in love with each other and help each other look great. I loved Season 7 but I think it lost a little steam with the audience, so I went into it wanting to make “Drag Race” great again and make it the best season ever, together. Regardless of who wins, who goes home first, let’s just make it great.